Comments on iFaqeer: Why say "Progressive Muslim"?

John Kactuz, We have enough Christian Mullah nutca...

2006-09-14T15:53:00.000-07:00

John Kactuz,

We have enough Christian Mullah nutcases in America that are hell bent in destroying America. Now we have a high profile nutcase in Europe to do the same for Europe. I don't know where you live, but if it is Europe or America, you have your work cut out. Control your Christian Mullah nutcases before they drag America and Europe into war with the world.

Check this out:

http://www.bangkokpost.com/breaking_news/breakingnews.php?id=112907

Sabahat, you are wasting time and energy with clue...

2006-09-14T15:42:00.000-07:00

Sabahat, you are wasting time and energy with cluelesso-Muslims who continue to identify themselves as "Progressives". These people neither have anything to teach, nor are willing to learn. Sexual "liberation" is their game. Everything else is smoke and screens. They should be called Sexogressive Muslims.

Liaquat Ali
http://www.quraninstitute.org

Salaam, faqeer,I found your discussion of "why say...

2006-09-14T15:05:00.000-07:00

Salaam, faqeer,

I found your discussion of "why say progressive muslim" interesting, but I tend to side with the commentor.

I was something of a closet muslim for a year or two before I found out about the progressive movement. This was because of my internal conflicts with the practice of Islam as I was raised versus core values about gender equality and acceptance diverse forms of sexuality. Since I found out about the movement, I felt more or less liberated because of the realization that the my choices were not limited to practicing in that particular way or not practicing.

I also went out of my way, when asked about religion to describe myself as a progressive muslim. However, I more recently decided that this is a disservice to myself and perhaps the progressive movement because it circumscribes my views and principles as less than fully muslim.

I agree with you that no one person/group can or should pose to speak for all muslims. However, and unfortunately, it seems like only the more liberal, if you will, people of any group tend to follow this guideline. Which tends to make the playing field a little uneven, especially in a world where everything tends to get reduced to the smallest and most stereotyping soundbyte.

That is my two pennies.

much peace,
-nooreen

Thank you about your comments. Did you get a chanc...

2006-09-14T13:36:00.000-07:00

Thank you about your comments. Did you get a chance to read my next post:

http://ifaqeer.blogspot.com/2006/09/on-terrorists-that-are-islamic-or.html

That's how I think we should behave. All of us people of faith. But I am not for a moment closing my eyes to the fact that members of all faith and ideological communities (remember Stalin or Mao or...?) have acted in the opposite spirit.

And while I have grown to have great respect for the office of the papacy, and I have to admit I have not read or heard the recent statement from the current Pope in detail, it is curious that he should use Islam to highlight fanaticism and oppression. Humility would have lead one to look inwards, not outwards.

Thanks again for stopping by.

Islam Progressive? In your dreams.What exasctly i...

2006-09-14T13:22:00.000-07:00

Islam Progressive? In your dreams.

What exasctly is progressive and liberal about Islam? The intolerance? Discrimination? The hate and anger in the Quran towards non-Muslims? Could it be the many vile stories about Islam's dear prophet in the hadiths? Or are hate, murder, torture, plunder, slavery and rape "Propgressive " values?

I see the Pope has said a few mild words abiout Islam and MOhammed, and Muslims are saying he is being hateful. Well, when Muslims start treating others the way they expect to be treated, we can then talk and work together. Until them, forget it. I will tell Muslims the truth about Islam - not that they care.

I have no faith in Muslims, except that they will lie and deceive others and themselves.

Shame!

John Kactuz